"...In Whoville they say that the Grinch's small heart grew three sizes that day..."
To avoid violating laws, Councilmembers will allow JJ to have chickens:
An oldie but goodie:
From Barry Maguire's endorsement of Nick Koval:
Supports Nick Koval
posted Oct 22, 2010 - 9:50:03am
"I am endorsing Nick Koval for DeBary City Council Seat 2, because he is a genuine person who means what he says and works to get it accomplished.
Nick will help to get DeBary back in the news in an admirable way..."
Major announcement from Mark Nation TODAY at 10AM:
JJ on the Today Show:
'It could be devastating to him' to lose the chickens, pediatrician Dr. Emily Forrest said
JJ Goes International - Carson, Koval and Hunt held up to International Scrutiny
Prior to the election Councilmember-elect Rick Dwyer witnessed a citizen put a flyer on his truck. It was the flyer Mr. Dwyer had sent out to voters. On it were scrawled some incredible comments that I will deal with in my next editorial. I will also describe in detail this individual who put it there. It was placed there in opposition to Rick Dwyer’s running against an incumbent. It was placed there to simply insult and attack Mr. Dwyer. It explained, from this person’s point of view, why Mayor Garcia was censured – it was not in pleasant language and it will be the subject of my next editorial - white SUV and all.
Mort Culligan has twice now been removed from the GCA. A trespass warning was given to him the second time – after attending a public event that had invited the public. Mort was escorted out by police because of the editorials he had written in opposition to GCA. People think that the GCA is a public building – it is not. It’s paid for by the public. But it is not a public building – it is a private corporation that is paid for with taxpayer money at the city, county and state level.
The pattern is that if you oppose a certain group in DeBary, you are targeted and harassed. You are invited to leave DeBary. If you’re Mr. Conoley, you get a letter from VM Carson’s lawyer. If you’re the Harts, you get a letter from CM Koval’s wife saying she’s going to get a lawyer to go after you if you don’t apologize for something you already apologized for. If you’re Mort Culligan, you’re falsely arrested and the charges are thrown out of court after you’ve been arrested and had a mug shot taken.
Behind the Splash Pad and Little League. Past the GCA and Football field and Fireworks. Past all of that. Behind it. If you oppose a small group of people, there is a dark, sinister side to DeBary. And part of that dark side are individuals like Sandra Wilson, Chris Carson, Marcia Carson, Mr. and Mrs. Koval. These people would have others believe that editorials – expressing ideas – are the problem and not the false arrests, the police escorts from public events that the public is invited to, letters from lawyers, flyers on windshield and so on. These people are protecting their self-interests. They use taxpayer money to do so. They spend taxpayer money to increase their popularity and power.
These sinister acts are the remnants of the DeBary of 20 years ago, only 4000 people lived here then. And now, 15,000 people or so later, those remnants are trying to hold on to what they started. It seems anyone else is incidental.
Carson, Koval and Hunt took a stand against providing medical treatment to JJ Hart by abolishing the Chicken Program. It’s gone national again – their denying JJ his medical treatment. It’s in the Daily News newspaper in New York City. I’m sure other national affiliates are looking into it as well. These are service chickens and their use is supported by JJ’s physician. People opposed to the Splash Pad and other expenditures of our money are told to be understanding and try to see the big picture. But Carson, Koval, and Hunt have the luxury of not having to do that when it comes to JJ. But for a single RV – they make an exception.
But not for JJ.
How will Mr. and Mrs. Hart explain to JJ that his chickens will have to go away?
I suggest they invite the 3 Councilmembers who are responsible to their home to do that.
City Council Meeting Breaking News...scooping all the papers:
Sorry, JJ - No more chickens for you: Carson, Koval and Hunt vote "NO"; Mayor and Handy-Peters voted "YES"
Carson and Koval were just going to say "No" to this regardless of anything. They demonstrated no understanding of the program and their commentary was, to quote Schopenhauer: "as infected with misinformation as a streetwalker is with syphillis." I believe CM Hunt voted for his stated reasons, but his reasons had already been refuted by Rick Dwyer's comments at the podium and Wayne Duprey's as well.
In my opinion, it was payback for the election from Carson and Koval. No support for that premise...but then there wasn't any support for the reasons to vote against the chicken program.
CM Hunt asked, "Who was beating down the doors for this permit?" Well, who was beating down the doors for a 500K Splash Pad? Or Park at Alexandra Woods. I could go on. You could have helped DeBary kids with medical needs and their interests in FFA and 4-H - you dashed their hopes and dreams.
After the Harts left, the Council voted 5-0 to allow an RV to remain on a City Easement. It had been there for 17 years anyway...so they granted him permission and him alone to do this. I'm glad the Council did this and the neighbors are on board as well; too bad JJ doesn't have more sway with Carson, Koval and Hunt than an RV.
Acquisition of property - this was a wild one and see if you can follow the votes:
To acquire the property:
4-1 - Koval Dissenting
To spend the money to acquire: 3-2 - Koval and Mayor Dissent...yeah...you read it right
Lastly, while Barry McGuire was talking during Public Participation, he ran the clock out. VM Carson walked over to the City Clerk and had her add two more minutes to the clock.
The Vice-Mayor has more power than the Council to add two minutes to the speaker's time with no motion or vote. He can simply give direction to staff to add two minutes with NO discussion. Oh I'm sure he had his reasons...and those reasons automatically gave him supreme power - I think that's called a despot.
Sad breaking news...
My neighbor on Azalea just called with a story that is nothing short of disturbing.
Two hours after code enforcement left her home concerning her goats, they were murdered - the tail was sliced clean to the bone on the doe with the unborn goats...the buck had cuts and holes on the side of the body but nothing around the head or throat. My neighbor's 16 year old daughter discovered the goats - one of which was pregnant with twin females. The dog and the chicken were untouched. There is an idea of what happened and a potential witness that may provide more information...
I'm not an animal activist or a member of PETA - but this is sick and now it's not an isolated incident as this is exactly what happened to JJ's Ducks. Both JJ's Ducks and the goats were in pens when slaughtered.
Horrific and sad that this is happening in DeBary.
The doe goat just won 2nd Place at Volusia County Fair.
My neighbor is going to the media...this isn't over...
IT’S A “HE SAID, HE SAID” SITUATION
HERE IS WHAT YOU RE-ELECTED
On October 3rd, 2012 VM Carson could not bring himself to vote for Rick Dwyer for an appointment to the Charter Review Committee. His stated reasoning was “…certain ethics…I have a problem with.”
Prior to this meeting, when asked about why VM Carson was reluctant to vote for Mr. Dwyer on September 5th, VM Carson affirmed that it was due to Mr. Dwyer’s association with Norm Erickson and DeBaryPOP.
Ok. That’s what VM Carson said. He said it.
On October 24th of 2013 after the Political Forum at the Gateway Center for the Arts, where Mort Culligan was thrown out by the Frau Direcktor Sandra Wilson, VM Carson came up to me, Norm Erickson.
VM Carson shook my hand; he looked me in the eye and said, “I respect you.” I was standing next to a former Council member when this occurred. VM Carson actually interrupted my conversation.
VM Carson said, “I respect you.” That’s what he said. I said, “Ok.” He asked if I knew that (that he respected me). I said, “No, I don’t know that.” He said, “Well, I’m telling you, I respect you.” I stared at him. He stared at me. VM Carson is a “close talker” and his mouthwash wasn’t working that evening.
So, VM Carson respects Norm Erickson. He said it.
But if you associate with me or have writings published on POP, VM Carson has problems with some of your ethics. He said that, too.
If you’re associating with me…someone VM Carson respects…or you send in editorials to this website that I run...I run it…Norm Erickson…someone VM Carson respects…then your ethics are suspect – VM Carson wouldn’t be able to vote in support of your appointment to a committee because you are associating with someone VM Carson respects - I think even Yogi Berra is scratching his head.
VM Carson respects me…just not you if you associate with me or submit a paper to my website.
But VM Carson respects Norm Erickson. He told me. But if you associate with me or have writings published on POP, then “Katy bar the door!”. Is that clear as mud? Good.
I wonder... if I put in for a committee…would VM Carson vote for me or not? Believe me when I tell you, I don’t know what VM Carson would think…does think…or has thought. And the 12 citizens who put him in office aren’t much further along on those points either, I would imagine.
Wait a second. Now that it is out that VM Carson respects Norm Erickson…is VM Carson on the “outs” with some of the circles in DeBary? Are people going to disassociate with VM Carson because he respects Norm Erickson? It’s the circle of life, Simba.
Norm Erickson – someone VM Carson respects…Still? Always…trust me…like it says on the money…speaking of money, lets talk about the football stadium VM Carson wants but never campaigned on...seems to be a theme...
P.S. If you're going to get upset over some of my commentary, please also get upset over the contradictory governing style of VM Carson first. He's the one with access to your wallets...I just write words...same goes for any of my commentary on Sandra Wilson - she's gotten millions of your dollars for her PRIVATE corporation with the help of enough elected officials...I'm not shaking down anyone for money...I'm just sharing thougths...